Agreed. What I meant was that if you are going to buy your engine then by definition you have access to a supply chain that could provide you with engine-level technology.
What I was reacting to was the sort of scope-creep of focusing on pushing everything to be so simple that it requires no pre-existing infrastructure. My mistake was thinking that was a good idea. It might be intellectually interesting, but it is so impractical it starts to get in the way of doing good things. Looking at it from a more realistic perspective reveals that there will be one part in the machine that is the most dependent on infrastructure, so once that part is identified it's okay to rely on that level of infrastructure, since it's mandatory anyway.
Obviously we should try to simplify wherever practical, but if we spend too much time figuring out how to build the machines from scratch/scrap we will be helping one person while missing the chance to help ten people.
Well...probably right around the area where the product doesn't exist on the shelf. The single biggest reason for doing this project is that on-the-shelf designs are all for-profit, which means they dont' work as well as they could.
Don't forget that a major benefit to the GVCS approach is that everything is being designed to be modular and inter-related. It's supposed to be a system of machines, not a collection of machines. So, comparing the cost of a single machine to the cost of buying that single machine COTS is missing the point.
Also, I strongly doubt your argument about components costing as much as the whole machine+warranty is accurate. When you buy the machine you're paying for the components, and the labor, and the profit, and the insurance, and the overhead, etc.
"I still think the number of externally manufactured parts should be kept as minimal as absolutely possible at the expense of being a little more crude, etc."
> Agreed. But there are some things that HAVE to be purchased, like engines. So, if we design the machine to use an engine, by default we are requiring everyone who wants to build the machine to be able to buy and maintain an engine. That means "crude" takes on a certain kind of meaning. Square tubes are more complex than angle or c-channel in that they require more infrastructure to manufacture. So, arguably we shouldn't use them when we could use stock components that are easier to make. However, they are remarkably useful because they're structurally stronger than angle and c-channel. If someone is buying an engine anyway, then they do have access to commodity square tubes. That means they are a practical option in the design. We might have to make the design much more complicated and require much more labor if we restrict ourselves to building it only out of the simplest raw materials. That would reduce the practicality of the project.
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