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fitzsnaggle

I'm making an open offer to get any articles on scopus or science direct with a one week turnaround. Here is a list of databases I have access to:

http://library.njit.edu/databases/index.php

I can probably any articles obtain any articles and books in UC Berkeley's electronic resources:

http://oskicat.berkeley.edu/

Please post a list of any articles or a link to any articles of pieces of books you would like me to obtain with as much detail as possible: ie: Author, Date, Volume, etc...

Where should I post the articles that I obtain?

I can also see if I can get an account with my school so that this research can be conducted directly. I'd like to give out my

gregor

Hey this is great, fitz, thank you very much for doing this.

I think this is likely to be an ongoing problem for us - the sheer cost of the high quality information that is often behind paywalls. Subject matter experts to consult help a great deal I'm sure, but unless we can find ones that already have highly specific expertise, it is not enough.

detailed reports of, for instance, people who have already done something very similar to what something we are thinking of doing, is invaluable no matter how you work it.

The problem is copyright and legal issues. I hate it as much as you do, but we cannot post this stuff on the wiki, Fitz. The journals own the copyright to it. We are allowed to pass it around, probably to a layer of 3 deep or so.

I wonder about the legality of someone who has access to a journal subscription etc. to grab the documents, though. I think that would be legal, right? After verifying this, we should add a group to the list of working groups of people who have access and can obtain documents for us.

That said, there are some docs on the zinc bromine page, could you obtain them?

http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Zinc_bromine_battery

also the ones at the other end of these links:
http://md1.csa.com/partners/viewrecord.php?requester=gs&collection=TRD&recid=2274533EA
http://md1.csa.com/partners/viewrecord.php?requester=gs&collection=TRD&recid=9006540612MD

gregor

Oh I forgot:
The approach I'm taking on the Nife project is to keep the docs on my harddrive, and then put a library section on the page listing the docs that I have in my possession, along with my email address so people can easily just send me an email and I will send them the collection. This is known to be legal. Others in possession of them should perhaps put their email address up too.

So could you send the above articles to gregorfolouk@hotmail.com?

Another way to consider doing it might be to encrypt them and put them on the wiki, but that is little different except making the data transfer a little easier since I would need only to send a key instead of the docs, and it might be considered a derivative work.

Jason

I think the approach the OSE team is taking with tightly managed human resources would clearly limit who would have access to these types of materials. Those on the project have access, those not on the project don't have access.

gregor

But my approach solves that does it not? Just email me and I will send them to you.

But yes, right now we have a situation like an office building with locked doors I think, people inside the building say they want collaboration, but the doors are locked. I am trying to make some progress on this issue on this forum but it is like pulling teeth to get any engagement on this.

Jason

@gregor

I think your approach is the same thing. You're the project manager in this case, you distribute the papers.

gregor

Oh, well, okay, but Jason that's only for the copyrighted papers, because that is the only way I have found to do it legally.

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